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Below is my comment to their proposal. Time to find new jobs you dinosaurs.
ha ha the internetz is dead to Australians, shame the pollies haven't worked out that even the most brain dead internet user can get around their filters.
Time for a "Pirate Party"/"EFF" style political membership organisation for the Australian federal givernment so that over tea and crumpets someone of their stature can take them to one side and point out they are living in a fairy land.
My recommendation is start a non taxable charity and run on this platform "Laurel Papworth for Presidentz of the Internetz".
Cheers,
Dean
Come on, Conroy, grow up, you are removing our civil rights as humans & Aussies, we arent all in kindergarten. Responsible parents ensure their children arent exposed to anything untoward. For a few that dont the majority of us are being penalised?
I suppose you will also have google blocked, as we might search something we shouldn't, while your at it block all news reporting sites as they sometimes show footage of blood & guts.
Ignorance like yours is what allows them to get away with it.
- Anthony M
Yes LL is merging the teen grid with the main grid. However, that does not mean things will change. Teen SL and normal SL will still be seperate, residents from each will not be able to go to the other grid. So it is NOT like there will be people from Teen SL going into normal SL sims.
Please, if you don't know what's going on. Don't comment. Because all you're doing is just fueling misinformation.
- Anthony M
All it will do is force people to find more ways around it.
There are whole sims dedicated to promoting Australia!
That said an outright ban is not likely of the SL grid, there is no reason the Teen grid can not remain open. Australian government are showing their idiocy here by not even having an 18 rating system in place. It basically tells the rest of he world that there in Australia adults are treated like 15 year olds....
To those of you who spend so much time complaining about the adult content in Second Life, you need to first realize that copious amounts of adult images, video and games are available for free on the INTERNET. It is much easier to access high quality life-like pornography on the good 'ol WWW because the prevalence of such content is drastically higher there than it is in Second Life. Don't believe me? Do a Google search for any sex-related term and you get MILLIONS of results - most of which when you click on show explicit hardcore images or video.
To the parents who are saying 'we have to do it for the children' I say you're full of crap. If your child is on the INTERNET to download and access Second Life, they already have a vector for pornographic delivery that is MUCH more powerful than Second Life could hope to be. I truly see more images of naked people simply surfing the web for mundane things than I ever have in Second Life.
To those of you who say 'they should verify the identity with a credit card' I say you really are naive. Anyone wanting pornographic material, much more hardcore and realistic than SL could provide - could do a simple Google search for 'xhamster' or 'thumbzilla' or 'jesuslovesporn' and you will notice that these sites have enormous amounts of material that you can access for FREE with no credit card whatsoever. Dig a little further and you will find hundreds of thousands of websites similar to the ones mentioned above.
As I mentioned, I make a living in Second Life. The money I make there selling such things as particle effects, fireworks systems and custom made avatars puts food on our table, buys the diapers for my baby and allows me to work from home so I can enjoy spending time with the little one as he grows. When you slander SL and drive customers away from my products because of 'sex' or whatever, you are undermining my ability to continue providing for the well being of my family. So stop the slander about Second Life and stop trying to dictate my fantasy world. If you don't like it, you can get your own fantasy world and it will be exactly what you want it to be, somewhere else.
In SECOND LIFE I have builded the free, uncommercial library PEGASUS (about 160 books in german language now- an growing). No Sex, no Porn, etc. ...
Censorship ... "Brave new world". It´s time to resist ! Best greetz BukTom Bloch
Furthermore, i am insulted that it is assumed that many who access the internet where some adults play such stupid activities, leads me to no longer be able to continue my friendships and exploring and learning.
People of Australia unite against this Morone, because he is looking for the spotlight only, appointing himself the keeper of rights. If it works there in australia as here in the states he is probably a pedifile or frequent brothels downtown. Keep you mouths open. Only for your own civial right.He works for you, he is your employee you pay him and elected him.
Grant Savage
Member ACL
Member SL USA
Be well and travel safe
People of Australia unite against this Morone, because he is looking for the spotlight only, appointing himself the keeper of rights. If it works there in australia as here in the states he is probably a pedifile or frequent brothels downtown. Keep you mouths open. Only for your own civial right.He works for you, he is your employee you pay him and elected him.
Grant Savage
Member ACL
Member SL USA
Be well and travel safe
Iv put alot of time and effet in creating my character and shops and for the goverment to turn around and say o we dont like sl well they will have halve the country telling then they can stick the censorship up there ***
They see more on tv and on websites that they do on SL.. What a Freaking joke Australia... Im so sorry..
Instead of chat rooms there are "Areas" like buildings and parks. A game within second life is like a trivia quiz or roleplaying chat room, with 3d.
If the govt bans SL they have to ban skype which has much worse adult activity, they have video of each other in that not "avatars" so skype is potentialy much more shocking. Too bad about the majority of use being not adult, but by the logic that might ban second life or call it a game, so must skype go.
And not only will this ban "protect" minors from SecondLife, it will fuck EVERYBODY who uses SL for financial gain who is from Australia over hard.
In my opinion, banning any game is stupid. If children are going on these places and buying these games, that should be left down to their parents, it depends if they are mature enough, personally, it shouldn't be left down to the government of wherever.
Sure there is a LOT of mature stuff in SecondLife, but even still, banning something isn't the answer, unless of course it was encouraging people into child pornography, but even then, that's up to the creators, Linden Labs, and the minors' parents.
That is all.
Forgive me for my profanity, but it really boils my blood when something is banned because of minors...
You tell me where it actually mentions SecondLife ?? What gives you Duncan Riley the right to print false information with no links to prove your claims! Putting Second Life in your title is a pathetic attempt to gain readership.
I want you to know that I am playing Second life on a Daily basis and I go in there to hear live music of which many of them are AUSTRALIAN, and to do my light shows. I DO not go there for SEX. What kind of morons are running your country anyway? I even have shows on YOUtube. ( OH maybe that's banned now too?) to prove that my light shows are not PORNOGRAPHIC!!!!
Second life is just like anything else. It's what you look for. People who look for porn will find it no matter what. Those of us that are into the creative part of SL realize that and shake our heads. Most of my friends are musicians and artists.
YOU will be only hurting your country by not allowing the artists and musicians play in SL, BOTH financially AND socially.
My best friend is from Australia and we toured California together. I wouldn't have met her if it hadn't of been for Second Life.
I personally was planning on touring your country next summer. This has caused me to rethink MY plans. Europe here I come.
...Do you have recall elections there? Or votes of "no confidence"? Either would work here to oust someone who's out of favor in the US.
Best wishes,
PsychicMediumMeri Indigo
so until it has I suggest people try to find out more facts.
As for Second Life. My son has a business on SL, loves the fact that his mother visits and sees what he is doing and has even bought me a skybox so I have somewhere to go as my home there. I do all sorts of writing courses etc on SL. Did you notice Minister Conroy....I am 69. You need to educate yourself.
there is also a age verification inforce in secondlife .
If you cannot prove you are of legal age you will not be alowed into adult sites
or even mature sights
There is plenty activities for minors in second life that is safe and protected.
you lot are same ol throw the baby out with the bath water mentality ..
shame on you
They also have age verification enforcement ...you must prove you are of legal age in order to enter a mature or adult sight.
they also have much to do for minors here in protected sights , good wholsome fun and entertainment.
you lot like to throw out the baby with the bath water mentality is shameful.
something from the darkages
shame on you !
... And I thought limiting bandwidth was bad enough... Christ...
Taking SL away from my Aussie friends... will be hurting not only them but a mass amount of people world wide. The virtual businesses owned...The sims and parcels run will disappear. As many before me have said...SL is not just for SEX or PORN. It is a way to meet and learn. Create and Love.... And to some, make a living.
With this said. I am HOPING this is all just a hoax. A joke. A false statement.... And if not... The Australian government will be seeing an upcoming riot.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cf...
Exclusively online games are not submitted to the OFLC for classification.
......exclusively online, exclusively multiplayer, and has no defined start and end. Thus it is inherently unclassifiable.
Therefore all the flaming torches and pitchforks would seem moot. But lets keep them handy just in case.
wow. note to self, Australia "ministers" are retarded.
The problem is there are a lot of parents that cannot control what their kids do on computer, be it through their own laziness, ignorance or otherwise. From personal experience I can tell you it's simply not possible to control what kids in this society may or may not do, suitable or not, and preventing them from using the internet is just not tenable. The net result is that lazy or intolerant people fall back on a 'higher power' to do their parenting, which in this case is the government. This is a mistake, but it's understandable in terms of human nature.
This is the motivation behind the ostensible reason for the governments actions. I say ostensible, because the government knows full well that the filtering concept is flawed and unsustainable. They have to give the appearance of genuinely trying in order to placate the ignorant mob pleading with them to save themselves. This plan will run its course, serve its political purpose and then be quietly shoved away never to be heard of again. Most of the time the people running the country are not nearly as stupid as they appear, and are undoubtedly smarter than you. Some really are very stupid, such as that Family First twat or that ambitious idiot that tried to remove the Prime Minister on the basis of a fraudulent email.
Finally, the ALP would hardly attract votes from bible bashers, most of whom would equate ALP voters as agents of satan, which really underlines your general ignorance of the political scene in Australia and what in fact the government is doing.
I suggest that if you really have a problem then take it to your local member so that your opinion is held in equal measure to all those scared parents. You are old enough to vote aren't you?
Thank God for the Greens. The problem for voters in Australia is that the Liberal Party (the major conservative party) want a filter too. They're currently using it to bash the ALP, but it was their idea when they were in Government.
The Greens are the only party who have consistently and vigorously defended our freedoms on this issue.
I wonder if these folks will get voted back in.
And Liberals are the fuckers who put this plan into motion.
i recommend you all sign it
Stop spreading FUD like this, it does nothing to help anyone.
I study Information Technology Security at University and have been following the legal and technical aspects of the internet filtering scheme for a while.
In fact, it still sounds like it'll be a complaint based system. I.e, if they get a complaint, and THEN find the material fits the RC category, then they look at filtering. Of course, it only takes one person to spoil the party... :P
I'm not saying this isn't something to be concerned about. Just don't jump the gun because someone runs a slightly sensationalist headline.
Those who call themselves "Christians" or "Moral," might see this as a "victory" over "evil." But for them, as well as all who applaud this travesty of freedom I will quote Benjamin Franklin, who said:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
It appears the people of Australia are still prisoners, exiled as were their forefathers and permitted only the "freedoms" their masters deem fit. It will be interesting to see if they accept this Orwellian destiny or rise up and demand the freedoms so many of them have given their blood to defend around the world.
As for Second Life (SL) and its "danger" as a source of adult content; SL is no more or less dangerous than the rest of the Internet. Those who wish to can find virtually anything they want on the Internet, good, bad or indifferent.
It should be up to adults and parents, not a "Nanny State," to take the steps necessary to limit exposure to content they deem inappropriate for themselves or their children. This can be done at the individual PC or user level.
By banning access to Second Life, the Australian government is not only cutting off access to "adult" content, but also art, music, education and collaboration opportunities that have the potential to enlighten, inspire and improve the lives of its citizens, young and old alike. If the government of Australia succeeds in censoring SL from their citizens, those of us who work, learn and yes "play" in Second Life will miss the tremendous spirit and contributions our Australian brothers and sisters make to SL everyday.
I close with a quote from another of our (American) Founding Fathers, that I hope will be taken to heart by all those who love freedom in Australia and around the world:
""The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
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I would not panic as yet.
Many of you may have heard the rumors about plans to ban Second Life in Australia. Some of you may have already been contacted by clients in Australia regarding these rumors. Below is the official statement from Linden Lab about this situation. Please share this with your clients. For future reference, this statement can also be found on the SP blogs: https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/workingi...
Statement from Linden Lab
Linden Lab has received no indications from the Australian government that it plans to block Second Life and will keep our community apprised of any developments on that front. In the meantime, we want to assure Australian Residents that Second Life remains accessible and functioning in your region.
Australia has and will continue to be an important market for Linden Lab, and we’re committed to providing the best possible Second Life experience for the users in that market. Some of the most exciting uses of Second Life have come out of Australia, a diverse community of Residents that includes major universities, large enterprises and many thousands of consumers, who spend hundreds of thousands of hours inworld each month.
We will continue to keep you up to date on any new developments. Please contact us with any questions on either the comments section of the SP blog post or at sldevelopers@lists.lindenlab.com.
For the Linden Lab Solution Provider Program team,
Madhavi, Glenn and Katrin
I mean how can you make peoples getting forbidden playing games like that!
And a funny detail.. in SL you simply have the decision receive pornograhic material etc.. which doesn;t mean it's an essential part of Second Life...
All with all.. This decision has been made too fast and withut even thinking about peoples who are so into the SL world.. there are enough folks who are earning their money (by selling stuff and their much time/trouble intensive homemade/brew clothing).. and now the very possibility will be take away from them like it's nothing..
Too bad it has to go that far like that..:\
When I do it crashes the whole SL Client, if I try to login from last location it screws up and crashes until I tell it to go to a PG area…
Namely:
a. Rude unknown gestures,
b. users disputes,
c. sexual violence and simulation against women and children,
d. Explotation of women and child simulation,
e. to many sexual genital availability to users even really not needed and against the law to walk in asia naked.
f. Gambling, and corrupt second life goverments to pausing there own monetary virtual money and charging real money for something that is not real,
g. corrupt land owner ship and sales of land for just a online game and charging US dollar which is not the monetary fund money here in asia.
h. Unfair treament to people and free users of secondlife,
i. and to many griefers most of the time while online,
j. child access to illegal 3d software here in asia namely secondlife without restriction which is also illegal,
k. unsafe use of credit cards from hackers of secondlife,
l. no technical support or no support at all to foreign asian pc and asking to much system resources system requirement for a online stupid game like 2gb memory, 3ghz processor, lots of disk space.
What do you think of money that are use to buy those items. Money don't fell from the sky you know. People here hard earn every bit of cent to earn a living. not like in america people just sit around and waiting for a pay check from the government that does'nt exit here in asia.
so it come to our attention if second life don't change there attitude in doing online business we will be force to put it in the next asian conference of nations to banned second anywhere in asia and auto delete from any access point to any given service provider server online. once read and captured online anywhere to prevent downloading its software and accessing it's website permanently.
Really? Is World of Warcraft included on the list? Well, I think those vulgar or sexually explicit games are justifiable to be banned in Australia except for these MMOs like WoW which provides us fun and entertainment. What's your classification of "Adult" games anyway? Is farming wow gold part of it? If it is, that's certainly an absurd idea! We have to bear in mind that the problem is never the game, it's the person playing it.